(17:59:08) The topic for #fedora-mktg is: This is the home of Fedora's
Marketing initiatives. | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing |
Fedora Ambassadors meet here. |
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors | This channel may be logged
and published. | Next Meeting: Thursday 20th April 22:00 UTC. Other
timezone?  http://tinyurl.com/qfwe5
(18:00:00) tchung [n=tchung@fedora/tchung] entered the room.
(18:00:14) lxmaier: the meeting will come to order
(18:00:21) lxmaier: i would like to call a roll
(18:00:24) lxmaier: AlexMaier
(18:00:25) tchung: ThomasChung
(18:00:35) cds: ClairShaw
(18:00:36) GeroldKa: GeroldKassube
(18:00:38) ke4qqq: DavidNalley
(18:00:43) StillBob: BobJensen
(18:00:43) McGiwer: PawelSadowski
(18:00:44) [splinux]: DamienDurand
(18:00:57) CincyPat: PatrickMcKelvey
(18:01:22) lxmaier: everybody please open
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Schedule
(18:01:36) lxmaier: first item is Famsco update
(18:02:06) lxmaier: the steering committee met on  2006-04-17 (Meeting
time 2006-04-17 23:00 UTC)
(18:02:15) AbhishekSingh [n=askme_ak@202.52.242.123] entered the room.
(18:02:21) lxmaier: you can read the log on
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Meetings
(18:02:28) lxmaier: highlights;
(18:02:40) lxmaier:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Budget
(18:02:54) lxmaier: here you can see the current budget and how the
spending is going
(18:03:13) lxmaier:  tchung will send out weekly reminder to sign CLA
and join "Ambassador" group via list.
(18:03:20) lxmaier: whoever has not yet, please do so
(18:03:26) nman64: PatrickBarnes - Sorry I'm late.
(18:03:37) Southern_Gentlem: benwiliams
(18:03:50) lxmaier: Famsco has voted to increase the budget for
LinuxTag on request from GeroldKa
(18:04:19) Southern_Gentlem: benwilliams
(18:04:38) JoseTarazona [n=jose_tar@200.106.211.81] entered the room.
(18:04:55) GeroldKa: ?
(18:05:04) lxmaier: and Karlie Robinson, the founder of the sponsored
media project, has been selected as Famsco Special Advisor on
Volunteer Management
(18:05:08) rMenezes
[n=rMenezes@201-25-8-4.nhoce300.ipd.brasiltelecom.net.br] entered the
room.
(18:05:14) cds: ?
(18:05:26) ChitleshGoorah: is he here?
(18:05:31) lxmaier: Karlie will help Famsco make sure that we improve
our project as we grop
ChanServ ChitleshGoorah
(18:05:43) rMenezes: hi guys, is Rodrigo Menezes from Brazil
(18:05:49) tchung: s/grop/grow
(18:05:51) anog [n=anog@a213-22-16-39.cpe.netcabo.pt] entered the room.
(18:05:56) lxmaier: eof
(18:06:00) lxmaier: > GeroldKa
(18:06:05) GeroldKa: but it's not updated and decided yet how much; isn't it?
(18:06:13) GeroldKa: on the homepage
(18:06:17) GeroldKa: <eof>
(18:06:32) lxmaier: GeroldKa: nope, it has not yet been published, but
the vote took place
(18:06:49) GeroldKa: +3 to FAMSCO
(18:06:52) lxmaier: We will spend 2K USD on Linuxtag
(18:06:57) lxmaier: eof
(18:07:01) lxmaier: > cds
(18:07:19) cds: Why is Karlie getting credit for something that was a
group idea?
(18:07:24) cds: eof
(18:07:29) tchung: !
(18:07:55) FrancescoUgolini: FrancescoUgolini
(18:08:02) FrancescoUgolini: brb
(18:08:04) rMenezes: RodrigoMenezes
(18:08:25) lxmaier: cds: do you wish to speak?
(18:08:29) tchung: !
(18:08:32) lxmaier: > tchung
(18:08:52) tchung: cds, it was *originally* her idea.
(18:08:54) cds: I did an eof :)
(18:09:04) lxmaier: cds: np
(18:09:18) cds: SponsoredMedia as it was should still not be attributed to her.
(18:09:20) tchung: eof
(18:09:20) cds: eof.
(18:09:57) tchung: once again.
(18:09:59) StillBob: !
(18:10:06) lxmaier: cds: a) Karlie had the original idea and
implemented it herself, 100%. Further, she was selected as Advisor due
to her volunteer management experience
(18:10:12) lxmaier: > StillBob
(18:10:18) cds: !
(18:10:20) StillBob: Karlie Robinson, part of the sponsored media
project, has been selected as Famsco Special Advisor on Volunteer
Management
(18:10:25) StillBob: EOF
(18:10:27) StillBob: Done
(18:10:41) lxmaier: > cds
(18:10:56) cds: I believe I was the one who implemened it :)
(18:10:58) cds: eof.
(18:10:59) StillBob: !
(18:11:01) [splinux] left the room (quit: Remote closed the connection).
(18:11:10) lxmaier: > StillBob
(18:11:10) McGiwer: hmm, when can i say sth?
(18:11:12) McGiwer: :D
(18:11:13) StillBob: We are arguing about NOTHING
(18:11:29) lxmaier: StillBob: +1
(18:11:36) lxmaier: discussion closed
(18:11:37) tchung: please let's move on.
(18:11:42) StillBob: what is the point of wasting my time while you
get a pat on the back? I am not sitting here for that
(18:11:50) StillBob: EOF
(18:11:56) cds: !
(18:12:00) lxmaier: i am done with the famsco update
(18:12:16) lxmaier: > cds (final remeark)
(18:12:17) Sonar_Guy [n=sglaser@fedora/sonarguy] entered the room.
(18:12:18) cds: Because I'm disillusionod with Ambassadors atm.
(18:12:28) StillBob: Nothing new
(18:12:37) lxmaier: The meeting shall come to order.
(18:12:38) cds: eof.
(18:13:03) lxmaier: thank you
(18:13:21) lxmaier: next item on the schedule
(18:13:33) lxmaier: Review the FedoraEvents for upcoming 3 months.
Make sure they're correct.  Make sure we've got ambassadors covering
them.
(18:13:39) lxmaier: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents
(18:13:54) lxmaier: we have FISL running, and it seems to be a good success
(18:14:01) rMenezes: !
(18:14:07) lxmaier: > rMenezes
(18:14:14) rMenezes: we are in the event right now
(18:14:22) lxmaier: how is it going?
(18:14:30) rMenezes: it's very good, Hugo Cisneiros, Pable Barreira
and Rodrigo Padula
(18:14:32) rMenezes: are here
(18:14:42) rMenezes: we are burning DVDs here and delivering to users
(18:14:43) lxmaier: how many people have visited your booth so far>
(18:14:46) lxmaier: ?
(18:15:02) rMenezes: we don't have the exact number
(18:15:11) rMenezes: but we are delivering a lot of dvds
(18:15:16) tchung: approximately?
(18:15:21) cds: !
(18:15:40) rMenezes: I thinks 300 to 400
(18:15:57) rMenezes: we made contacts with companies, and govermental institutes
(18:16:05) rMenezes: we are getting some cases to publish in our sites
(18:16:09) rMenezes: with companies using Fedora
(18:16:12) AbhishekSingh: that's really great
(18:16:23) rMenezes: one of then have more than 4000 computers with Fedora
(18:16:42) rMenezes: this is the second of 4 days, and it's beeing great
(18:16:51) lxmaier: rMenezes: are you ready to take questions?
(18:17:00) rMenezes: yes
(18:17:01) lxmaier: > cds
(18:17:10) rMenezes: ?
(18:17:33) cds: Can tchung please stick to meeting rules and say ! to
be given the floor? As a member of famsco he should know better.
(18:17:35) rMenezes: we have one lecture and a presentation for users tomorrow
(18:17:36) cds: eof.
(18:17:53) tchung: sorry cds. :)
(18:17:57) lxmaier: any relevant questions to rMenezes about FISL?
(18:18:19) StillBob: ?
(18:18:23) lxmaier: > StillBob
(18:18:39) StillBob: How could we as fellow ambassdors supported you better?
(18:18:46) StillBob: EOF
(18:19:20) rMenezes: today we are working fine, last week we'll sit,
discuss the new operations and talk about it
(18:19:39) rMenezes: eof
(18:19:51) rMenezes: sorry, next week
(18:19:58) lxmaier: okay then, let's move on.
(18:19:59) ***StillBob nods
(18:20:02) lxmaier: Apr 22-23, 2006    lanwelche   Strasbourg, FRANCE
 ChitleshGoorah   Video Games on LAN
(18:20:04) lxmaier: > ChitleshGoorah
(18:21:00) lxmaier: ping ChitleshGoorah
(18:21:06) tchung: !
(18:21:13) lxmaier: > tchung
(18:21:20) ChitleshGoorah: ok,
(18:21:27) ChitleshGoorah: This is not a big event
(18:21:30) tchung: > ChitleshGoorah
(18:21:47) ChitleshGoorah: there will be about 60 guys
(18:21:49) lxmaier: ChitleshGoorah: it does not matter if it is big,
as long as we are reaching people :)
(18:22:08) ChitleshGoorah: I ll have a speech on Open source software
(18:22:17) ChitleshGoorah: there won't be a video projector
(18:22:31) ChitleshGoorah: so ill just speak and speak
(18:22:36) McGiwer: ;>
(18:22:41) ChitleshGoorah: that's it
(18:22:50) ChitleshGoorah: ill burn some dvds as well
(18:22:59) cds: !
(18:23:03) lxmaier: > tchung (if you still want to speak)
(18:23:04) ChitleshGoorah: cds:
(18:23:10) tchung: > cds
(18:23:13) lxmaier: > cds
(18:23:31) ChitleshGoorah: cds: im listening
(18:23:35) cds: Can McGiwer please stick to meeting rules and say ! to
be given the floor? And why is tchung giving floor?
(18:23:58) mode (+o StillBob ) by ChanServ
(18:24:03) lxmaier: thank you for a point of order cds. we will proceed now.
(18:24:03) ChitleshGoorah: cds: he smiled
(18:24:19) McGiwer: cds  sure i can, i see i haven't participated to
the meeting too long... few things have changed
(18:24:29) lxmaier: any relevant questions to ChitleshGoorah and his
LAN meeting?
(18:24:30) cds: !
(18:24:31) ChitleshGoorah: so that's it for this event
(18:24:41) ChitleshGoorah: cds:
(18:24:41) lxmaier: > cds
(18:24:44) cds: Can McGiwer please stick to meeting rules and say ! to
be given the floor?
(18:25:02) lxmaier: thank you cds. this is quite enough for now. we
shall proceed.
(18:25:12) lxmaier: Apr 24, 2006   Fedora Talk(rescheduled)   Uttar
Pradesh, India   PuneetBatura   Talking to my school students on FOSS.
I think i will be talking on FC 5 since we have a auditorium(of about
250 people capacity) with a projector so place is not an issue.
(18:25:14) ChitleshGoorah: ive finished with this event
(18:25:17) lxmaier: is puneet here
(18:25:27) GeroldKa: !
(18:25:30) lxmaier: > GeroldKa
(18:25:40) GeroldKa: afaik he told to go sleeping :-)
(18:25:58) GeroldKa: because its early in the morning local time ....
(18:26:00) GeroldKa: eof
(18:26:04) lxmaier: Puneet is a she I believe :)
(18:26:07) lxmaier: let's move on
(18:26:08) lxmaier: Apr 24-26, 2006    LinuxWorld Toronto    Metro
Toronto Convention Centre Toronto, Canada     BehdadEsfahbod
LinuxWorld/LinuxWorldToronto2006 for more info
(18:26:19) lxmaier: Famsco has appropriated a budget for this event
(18:26:34) lxmaier: need to get DVDs there early next week.  I propose
(18:26:34) lxmaier: spending $1000 to get 400-500 DVDs to Linux World
Toronto.  Comes out of
(18:26:34) lxmaier: the DVD budget.
(18:26:34) lxmaier: So, I need a quick vote on these events.  Please
let me know what you
(18:26:34) lxmaier: think.  This would bring our DVD budget from $15k
down to $12k for two
(18:26:34) lxmaier: pretty big events.
(18:26:48) lxmaier: (quote from gregdek_gone email)
(18:27:02) StillBob: +1
(18:27:11) CyberSpy: +1
(18:27:16) cds: -1
(18:27:22) cds: !
(18:27:22) tchung: !
(18:27:31) GeroldKa: +1 and ?
(18:27:45) lxmaier: > cds (then tchung, then GeroldKa)
(18:28:15) cds: DVDs are *far* more important than events, and we
should not be taking money out of the DVD budget to give to events.
greendisease gregdek_gone
(18:28:30) cds: And DVDs relate to other projects other than ambassadors, too.
(18:28:32) cds: eof.
(18:28:36) CyberSpy: !
(18:28:54) lxmaier: cds: let me clarify: We are using the money to
produce DVDs for the events
(18:29:06) lxmaier: > tchung
(18:29:11) cds: Will they be needed?
(18:29:21) tchung: I think some of us misunderstood here.
(18:29:24) cds: What happens to whatever's left?
(18:29:45) tchung: we, famsco already voted on this issue.  Alex was
simly copy and paste from Greg's email.
(18:29:46) tchung: eof
(18:30:01) GeroldKa: we try and find a solution (agreed and discussed
with Greg) to sell the DvD to get the money back, isn't it possible to
do the same here? And so it does not match and decrease the budget
later
(18:30:02) lxmaier: thank you tchung. this is what it was. sorry if it
was confusing.
(18:30:04) GeroldKa: eof
(18:30:10) lxmaier: the meeting shall come to order
(18:30:16) cds: ?
(18:30:18) lxmaier: GeroldKa: you will wait until recognized
(18:30:59) lxmaier: cds: the DVDs will be shipped to the event, and
whatever is left over will be distributed to the people after the
event, gradually
(18:31:12) lxmaier: however we do not expect that there will be a lot left over.
(18:31:19) lxmaier: > GeroldKa (then cds)
(18:31:22) cds: Ah, ok.
(18:31:37) GeroldKa: Oh, sorry, I thought I was in the lines before:
lxmaier > cds (then tchung, then GeroldKa) and tchung has talked; so
SORRY again for not sticking the rules
(18:31:54) ruimoreira left the room (quit: Read error: 110 (Connection
timed out)).
(18:31:56) GeroldKa: and I've had my voice, thanks for bringing me directly back
(18:32:01) GeroldKa: to the rules
(18:32:03) GeroldKa: EOF
(18:32:29) lxmaier: GeroldKa: to your question about getting the money
back--I think it would be okay if you made a donation voluntary, but
not SOLD the DVDs straightout
(18:32:31) puneet_batura: PuneetBatura
(18:32:59) AbhishekSingh: AbhishekSingh
(18:33:07) JoseTarazona: JoseTarazona
(18:33:09) puneet_batura: !
(18:33:15) lxmaier: okay, if there are no further questions, let's move on
(18:33:19) lxmaier: > puneet_batura
(18:33:31) puneet_batura: The update for my presentation
(18:33:43) mode (-o StillBob ) by StillBob
(18:33:48) lxmaier: puneet_batura: wait until your event is called
(18:34:00) puneet_batura: I will be giving the presentation on FOss
(18:34:10) lxmaier: puneet_batura: we have skipped it, b/c you were not here
(18:34:16) lxmaier: puneet_batura: you are out of order
(18:34:25) puneet_batura: and will provide the users with the
production cycle of FOSS
(18:34:30) puneet_batura: EOF
(18:34:40) puneet_batura: srry alex
(18:35:01) lxmaier: well, i guess this was the update from puneet_batura ...
(18:35:14) lxmaier: next time, please follow the procedure puneet_batura
(18:35:21) lxmaier: moving on
(18:35:26) puneet_batura: sure alex..:)
(18:35:26) lxmaier: Apr 27, 2006    IRC Presentation:
#fedora-fr-meeting     Fedora and How the French Community can
participate    ChitleshGoorah ThomasCanniot DamienDurand
AurelienBompard    meeting minutes -- Official wiki page -- Version
Française
(18:35:33) lxmaier: > ChitleshGoorah
(18:35:39) lxmaier: > MrTom
(18:35:42) ChitleshGoorah: hello
(18:35:43) ChitleshGoorah: again
(18:35:49) FrancescoUgolini: sorry, for me is to late, i do to bed,
i'll read the irc log tomorrow. See you soon
(18:35:50) FrancescoUgolini left the room (quit: "Leaving").
(18:35:57) cds: !
(18:36:07) ChitleshGoorah:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/fr_FR/FedoraEvents/vFUDCon/01France
(18:36:09) ChitleshGoorah: in french
(18:36:19) McGiwer: i also have to leave
(18:36:20) McGiwer: bye
(18:36:20) ChitleshGoorah: in english
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/vFUDCon/01France
(18:36:23) McGiwer left the room (quit: "leaving").
(18:36:25) ChitleshGoorah: as you can see
(18:36:25) lxmaier: will any of this be available in english?
(18:36:49) ChitleshGoorah: we have changed the title from IRC
Presentation to vFUDCon/01France
(18:37:04) ChitleshGoorah: vFUDcon = virtual FUDCon proposed by mether
(18:37:15) ChitleshGoorah: accepted by MrTom and [splinux]
(18:37:22) ChitleshGoorah: lxmaier: yes there is
(18:37:26) ChitleshGoorah:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/vFUDCon/01France
(18:37:35) ChitleshGoorah: MrTom: wrote the announcement in French
(18:37:44) ChitleshGoorah: BIG thanks to him and [splinux]
(18:38:05) ChitleshGoorah: tomorrow we will start making publicity everywhere
(18:38:29) ChitleshGoorah: Ill translate the announcement to english tomorrow
(18:38:47) ChitleshGoorah: ok,  the reason behind vFUDCon
(18:39:07) ChitleshGoorah: our IRC Presentation is somehow new to Fedora
(18:39:15) ChitleshGoorah: new to the Marketing Project
(18:39:47) lxmaier: are you ready to take questions now, ChitleshGoorah?
(18:39:48) ChitleshGoorah: so Mether and the French Ambassadors
thought we can share the idea to everyone
(18:40:05) ChitleshGoorah: ill create a template for vFUDCon
(18:40:08) ChitleshGoorah: later on
(18:40:16) ChitleshGoorah: lxmaier: yes go on
(18:40:19) ChitleshGoorah: MrTom: ?
(18:40:22) ruimoreira [n=rmoreira@bl6-149-222.dsl.telepac.pt] entered the room.
(18:40:27) lxmaier: > cds
(18:40:31) cds: Can FrancescoUgolini and McGiwer please stick to
meeting rules and say ! to be given the floor?
(18:40:36) cds: eof.
(18:40:49) ChitleshGoorah: other questions ?
(18:40:49) lxmaier: any *relevant* questions, please?
(18:40:57) ChitleshGoorah: MrTom: you want to add something
(18:41:19) ChitleshGoorah: ill send a mail later on tonight or
tomorrow concerning the template for vFUDCon
(18:41:23) lxmaier: okay then--let's move on
(18:41:30) ChitleshGoorah: move on
(18:41:51) lxmaier: Apr 29, 2006 (tentative)    LUGS (April)
Singapore Management University, Singapore   EugeneTeo   Will be
talking about Fedora in general and FC5.
(18:41:58) lxmaier: is eugene here?
(18:42:14) lxmaier: ping eugene
(18:42:31) lxmaier: 3
(18:42:37) lxmaier: 2
(18:42:46) lxmaier: 1
(18:42:56) lxmaier: moving on
(18:43:00) lxmaier:  May 3-6, 2006    Linuxtag Germany     Wiesbaden,
This event is the biggest Open Source Event in Europe    FlorianBrand
GeroldKassube ChitleshGoorah    See  Linuxtag Homepage for Linuxtag
details; See LinuxTag for more info
(18:43:04) lxmaier: > GeroldKa
(18:43:10) GeroldKa: you'll find the updated organisation at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxTag we're a little bit late but
this was because of the holidays of BruderTux. It's great that he'll
be back that we can realize to participate Linuxtag. We're also
looking for presenatations which can be shown ...
(18:43:19) GeroldKa: OK, maybe one more point: Florian aka BruderTux
and me are the only Ambassadors which will be at the booth the whole
time, does anybody wants to attend and assist?
(18:43:28) GeroldKa: eof
(18:43:57) ChitleshGoorah: I will be present on Saturday 6
(18:44:04) ChitleshGoorah: :)
(18:44:05) cds: !
(18:44:08) GeroldKa: !
(18:44:09) lxmaier: any more questions?
(18:44:11) lxmaier: > GeroldKa
(18:44:22) GeroldKa: thank you ChitleshGoorah
(18:44:24) GeroldKa: eof
(18:44:32) puneet_batura: !
(18:44:44) lxmaier: > puneet_batura
(18:44:54) puneet_batura: I will provide you with my presentation on FC 5
(18:45:06) puneet_batura: eof
(18:45:17) GeroldKa: !
(18:45:36) lxmaier: > GeroldKa
(18:45:45) GeroldKa: thank you also puneet_batura and its a pitty that
you cann't attend
(18:45:46) GeroldKa: eof
(18:46:10) lxmaier: let us move on then GeroldKa?
(18:46:42) lxmaier:  May 20, 2006    Multimedia Day France     Cambrai
FRANCE, This event is organized by a local LUG : Linux-Cambrésis
ThomasCanniot     See  Linux-Cambrésis. Will do a presentation of the
Fedora Project in general, the same as in Campux in April 11th. Will
request some schwag soon, as it seems to be a small event but lasts 2
days.
(18:46:45) lxmaier: > MrTom
(18:47:24) StillBob: !
(18:47:38) lxmaier: > StillBob
(18:47:50) StillBob: Please keep track of where we are at on the list,
and be preped when it is your turn please
(18:47:56) StillBob: EOF
(18:48:01) ***puneet_batura confirms to alex that he is a male
(18:48:12) cds: !
(18:48:28) lxmaier: thank you StillBob
(18:48:32) lxmaier: we shall proceed
(18:48:39) lxmaier: June 9th-10th 2006    CarolinaCon     Raleigh NC
  LeeJoseph     comments
(18:48:41) lxmaier: > CyberSpy
(18:48:43) cds: Can puneet_batura please stick to meeting rules and
say ! to be given the floor?
(18:48:48) StillBob: ?
(18:49:02) lxmaier: > StillBob
(18:49:15) StillBob: cds are you an ambassador at this time?
(18:49:21) cds: Yes.
(18:49:25) CyberSpy: Everytjhing is running smooth
(18:49:35) StillBob: cds: thenI ask that you stick to the rules also
(18:49:47) cds: I will if Alex gives me the floor.
(18:49:48) lxmaier: let us not turn this meeting into a fight over
technicalities. CyberSpy is reporting on his LUG meeting.
(18:49:55) puneet_batura: StillBob:+1
(18:49:57) StillBob: cds: your extra comments are not helping us move forward
(18:50:10) CyberSpy: We have 500 dvds to give out, a contructed kiosk
computer with FC5 on it to place in teh lobby for people to use
(18:50:15) StillBob: cds: please stop or I will ask for a vote to mute you
(18:50:22) StillBob: EOF
(18:50:22) CyberSpy: And Alex Maier help secure some speakers
(18:51:07) lxmaier: eof CyberSpy ?
(18:51:37) lxmaier: this was the last event for today -- moving on to
video contest
(18:52:22) lxmaier: we have some judges secured for the panel, and the
giveaway production has been initiated. we will present the proofs to
the group on the wiki.
(18:52:24) CyberSpy: EOF
(18:52:25) lxmaier: eof
(18:52:41) lxmaier: questions/comments to video contest?
(18:53:00) lxmaier: then let's move on to schwag pipeline update
(18:53:12) lxmaier: Store go-live date is May 8th.  We'll have LOTS of
stuff -- shirts, DVD packs, stickers, hats.
(18:53:28) cds: ?
(18:53:33) lxmaier: > cds
(18:53:47) cds: I'm concerned what vendors will say if we're selling
DVDs ourselves.
(18:53:50) cds: eof
(18:53:54) rMenezes: ?
(18:53:59) lxmaier: > rMenezes
(18:54:08) rMenezes: Is this gona be sent to Brazil?
(18:54:21) rMenezes: eof
(18:55:07) GeroldKa: ?
(18:55:12) lxmaier: cds: the vendors should not be concerned, as there
are already other vendors on the market. and with UPS shipping, not
all regions will find using our store feasible.
(18:55:23) cds: !
(18:55:33) AbhishekSingh: !
(18:55:44) lxmaier: rMenezes: the store uses UPS shipping, so yes,
theoretically, but the customs will be a problem, as always.
AbhishekSingh anog
(18:55:56) lxmaier: > GeroldKa (then cds, AbhishekSingh)
(18:56:10) GeroldKa: is there also a layout for all these stuff? Who
has decided what should be produced and in which quantity? Is it a Red
Hat thing or is it a Fedora Project
(18:56:19) rMenezes: ?
(18:56:23) GeroldKa: and if; from who? who owned it?
(18:56:26) GeroldKa: eof
(18:57:17) lxmaier: GeroldKa: fedora is a Red Hat sponsored project,
so red hat decides how much money to spend on DVDs etc. the store will
be run by BrandFuel, a merchandise vendor.
(18:57:29) lxmaier: > cds (then AbhishekSingh, rMenezes)
(18:58:10) lxmaier: ping cds
(18:58:24) cds: People are more likely to buy from RH/Fedora than
other vendors. Mostry because of branding, and because of trust. I've
already removed one vendor earlier this evening.
(18:58:32) cds: eof.
(18:58:52) cds: (..because they failed to deliver). eof.
(18:59:33) lxmaier: cds: we will hope that the vendors will be able to
fill in where we fail, in regions where our store will not deliver.
(18:59:41) cds: !
(18:59:57) lxmaier: after all, fedora is free, so gain for vendors is
not a major concern for us.
(19:00:04) StillBob: ?
(19:00:09) lxmaier: > AbhishekSingh (then rMenezes, cds, StillBob)
(19:00:40) lxmaier: ping AbhishekSingh
(19:00:47) AbhishekSingh: I think shipping through store should be
planned keeping in mind the layout of all the retail channel
(19:01:18) ke4qqq: ?
(19:01:23) AbhishekSingh: and further who from Fedora (Ambassadors
and/or Marketing) is assisting BrandFuel for handling the store?
(19:01:41) AbhishekSingh: eof
(19:01:56) lxmaier: AbhishekSingh: the store has a fulfillment
facility, they do not need any help, as they make money selling stuff
like this to people over the internet.
(19:02:12) lxmaier: > rMenezes, (cds, StillBob, ke4qqq)
(19:02:15) rMenezes: Can you sent for us 5 kits of every product? with
this we could find some companies here to produde then in Brazil.
greendisease gregdek_gone
(19:02:39) lxmaier: rMenezes: talk to gregdek_gone about it--he should
be able to help you.
(19:02:41) rMenezes: spending less money
(19:02:48) rMenezes: ok, thanks! eof
(19:02:59) lxmaier: > cds (StillBob, ke4qqq)
(19:03:24) lxmaier: ping cds
(19:03:39) cds: A significant number of vendors are based in North
America, and many distribute to other countries.
(19:03:58) cds: We should not be underestimating vendors, they play an
important part in distribution.
(19:04:01) cds: eof.
(19:04:57) puneet_batura: !
(19:05:02) lxmaier: cds: as long as their offering (and this may
include better shipping options, as UPS international is very
expensive) there shall be no conflict. further, the store is mainly
designed to hel up pipeline the schwag to the Ambassadors worldwide.
(19:05:18) cds: ?
(19:05:23) lxmaier: > StillBob ( ke4qqq, puneet_batura, cds)
(19:05:26) StillBob: I agree with Alex, I do not think Vendors making
a buck off of Fedora DVD or CD sales should be our concern as
ambassadors. BrandFuel has a history and reputation of quality
product. If the vendors have a problem with competition....bummer.
This subject goes beyond Ambassadors to Marketing in general.
(19:05:41) StillBob: EOF
(19:06:03) puneet_batura: StillBob: +1
cds ChanServ ChitleshGoorah CincyPat CyberSpy
(19:06:16) AbhishekSingh: StillBob: +1
(19:06:20) lxmaier: ke4qqq: ( puneet_batura, cds)
(19:06:22) ke4qqq: What happens with the proceeds/profits, assuming
that there are any. does it return to Fedora Project or to redhat?? I
know thats a weird question considering the RH/Fedora link and the
seed money.
(19:06:41) rMenezes left the room (quit: "Leaving").
(19:06:57) lxmaier: ke4qqq: there are no profits to Fedora, the vendor
will produce at their own cost and distribute for a slim margin.
(19:07:26) lxmaier: puneet_batura (cds)
(19:07:35) puneet_batura: I think that our main concern here is FOSS
and if we can provide the right things on the right place our goal is
achieved
(19:08:00) puneet_batura: And as we discussed vendors can provide
support to places where we can provide
(19:08:03) puneet_batura: eof
(19:08:08) lxmaier: > cds
(19:08:25) cds: I hope ambassadors don't have to pay for swag/DVDs.
(19:08:27) cds: eof
(19:08:57) cds: s/./?/
(19:09:04) lxmaier: cds: nope, as long as they request in advance, for
a cause, and get approval from Famsco, the schwag will be shipped to
them on Famsco's budget.
(19:09:17) cds: ?
(19:09:29) lxmaier: > cds
(19:09:40) cds: Is WordOfMouth a worthy cause?
(19:09:41) cds: eof
(19:10:13) lxmaier: yes, i believe so, but Famsco has to vote, so do
not take my word as a final approval.
(19:10:23) cds: k.
(19:10:45) lxmaier: submit a request according to the guidelines and
famsco will determine how much to ship to you if at all.
(19:11:18) StillBob: !
(19:11:23) lxmaier: the guidelines require that the Ambassador give us
a justification for the expenditure and some type of a measure of
success.
(19:11:41) lxmaier: see
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee
(19:11:44) lxmaier: > StillBob
(19:11:51) StillBob: Starter kits are still planned for ambassadors
for WOM time things am I correct?
(19:12:01) StillBob: s/time/type
(19:12:05) StillBob: EOF
(19:12:38) lxmaier: StillBob: AFAIK yes. however, the budget is
limited, so not everyone will get stuff right away.
(19:12:58) lxmaier: any more questions about schwag?
(19:13:07) lxmaier: final item:
(19:13:08) puneet_batura: !
(19:13:12) lxmaier: > puneet_batura
(19:13:32) puneet_batura: is the deadline fixed
(19:13:42) puneet_batura: or it can move again to a later date
(19:13:45) puneet_batura: eof
(19:14:14) lxmaier: puneet_batura: this is the deadline the vendor
gave us. if something happens, it might change, but we all hope not!
:)
(19:14:26) lxmaier: final item for today:
(19:14:28) lxmaier: Presentations for Ambassadors    RahulSundaram
Standing item   We need to provide Ambassadors with some slide decks
for various presentations. We should probably aggregate the ones we
already have and make them available. We should also figure out our
policy for licensing these presentations!
(19:14:32) lxmaier: mether: ping
(19:14:43) tchung: !
(19:14:47) lxmaier: > tchung
(19:15:15) tchung: I sent him an email regarding this item. Hopefuly,
he will give me an update later.
(19:15:16) tchung: eof
(19:15:30) lxmaier: well, that concludes our meeting.
(19:15:53) lxmaier: if you wish to discuss something in the next
meeting, please add your item to the schedule
(19:15:57) lxmaier: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Schedule
(19:16:00) lxmaier: thank you
(19:16:05) lxmaier: === adjourned ===
